in my last year as a member of congress, i would say perhaps half of the members of congress had to live wearing bullet proof vests and have armed guards. >> really? >> during the aftermath of obama care, when there were, the president was being held in effigy, and these comments were blocking members of congress from being able to go and vote. you may recall that. and people like john lewis were being called epithets, racial epithets. this wasn't isolated. this was happening in our nation's capital and around the country. whether it is guns or the issue of mental health or anything that is a hot button issue, where we can't talk to one another, and that i think is the more disruptive, disturbing thing. i mean, i felt threatened when he was threatening you. and the fact that we're not thinking about one another in those ways. he was assaulting your human dignity. >> i mean, personally, i never felt threatened by him. what i felt was it was one of those interviews where you just want to let him talk. because getting inside the mind of a man who has millions of people that listen to him ev